Reports suggest UK break-up could be discussed at Cardiff summit

The First Ministers of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are due to meet tomorrow

Author: Jonny Freeman / PAPublished 13th Sep 2026

Reports suggest there could be discussions on the possible break-up of the UK during a summit in Cardiff tomorrow.

The First Ministers of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are expected to discuss options when they meet in the Welsh capital.

Downing Street has previously said independence is 'off limits' - and the Westminster government's position has not changed.

A referendum on Scottish independence is “not off the table”, a senior minister has said, despite comments from the Prime Minister.

Separation from the UK was thrust into the fore again this week after Andy Burnham said in the House of Commons another vote would be allowed if the majority of people in Scotland wanted it.

The comments were seized on as a potential softening of the UK Government’s position, though Downing Street was quick to reject such claims, re-affirming that the constitutional arrangement in Scotland was “off limits”.

John Swinney is due to meet Plaid Cymru leader Rhun ap Iorwerth and Sinn Féin vice president Michelle O’Neill in Cardiff on Monday, as well as take part in a series of engagements with the Welsh Government.

Speaking on the BBC’s Sunday Show, Scottish Education Secretary Mairi McAllan said: “An independence referendum is not off the table.

“We devote time to it because it is the transformational change that allows Scotland to stand on its own two feet in the world and to fulsomely pursue the better that we want.”

The “status quo in the UK is unsustainable”, Ms McAllan added, pointing to the first ministers of both Northern Ireland and Wales being in support of leaving the UK.

“The only people who, until last week anyway, didn’t appear to understand that were the UK Government.

“But the Prime Minister stood at the despatch box in the House of Commons last week and was clear that Scotland must have a route to choose our own future, so we just want that agreed now in a legal format so that we can take forward our mandate in Scotland.”

In a letter to the First Minister this week, the Prime Minister said he had been “highlighting that there is no consensus for an independence referendum in Scotland”.

He told Mr Swinney: “As I made clear to you personally when we met recently in Glasgow, independence and a referendum are off limits as it would take our focus away from growing the economy and helping families with the cost of living.”

Former Conservative minister Lord Michael Gove appeared on the same programme - and said he agrees with the Prime Minister:

“Every time John Swinney talks about independence and invites us to talk about independence, that is time that should be spent talking about how to grow the Scottish economy, how to improve Scottish schools, how to make the NHS work better, how to make transport in Scotland work better, how to bring ferries to the islands.

“Talking about about that issue is a deliberate tactic in order to move scrutiny away from the day-to-day performance of the Scottish Government.”

Reaction from Wales' First Minister

The First Ministers of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland will discuss the “pursuit of a different attitude” from the UK Government when they meet on Monday, Rhun ap Iorwerth has said.

The Plaid Cymru leader will speak to Scottish National Party leader John Swinney and Sinn Féin vice president Michelle O’Neill in Cardiff about shared interests.

The trio will also discuss the future of independence for their respective countries.

Mr ap Iorwerth told the BBC’s Sunday With Laura Kuenssberg the group will talk about what they have in common and what they do not.

“What we don’t is we have distinct nations with our own trajectories and our own priorities, but there are areas on which we see it very, very important to cooperate, as in Scotland on child poverty, for example, Northern Ireland on the economics of renewable energy,” he said.

“But there’s also something that ties us together isn’t there?

“That pursuit of a different attitude from UK government.

“It could be around the constitutional question.

“It could more acutely be around fair funding, making sure that resource is shared in a way that is equitable, that feels fair, that we have the powers to build a future for the people that we represent.”

He said he wants to pursue powers over natural resources, policing, and justice.

“We can work together as first ministers across these islands I think in a positive way for the people we represent whilst also absolutely reflecting on the fact that we have differences between us,” he added.

Policing is devolved in Northern Ireland and Scotland but not in Wales, where the policy area is reserved to Westminster.

Plaid Cymru entered government in Wales in May after a historic election result saw it oust Welsh Labour from power for the first time in more than two decades.

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